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welcome welcome everybody to my awesome

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friday evening you're listening to me

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heidi hollis the outlander so welcome to

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the show everybody uh-oh i'm getting

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some feedback

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something's clicking around

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mute

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there we go we're better

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all right well you guys this show is

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about bringing outlandish and

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interesting topics to the forefront from

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aliens angels ghost demons wholly

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encounter shadow people to bigfoot to

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the outlandish i always say if it's

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weird we're here and now you are too so

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you are among friends and if you don't

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know who i am when it comes to the

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outlandish i don't care what's going on

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no i do um personally i'm someone who

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has been there seen that experienced it

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freaked out found some answers wrote

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about it got over it and now i'm hoping

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to help others do the same darn thing

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and understand this crazy crazy world of

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ours if you do dare go to my main

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website to learn things about me there

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that are just mind-blowing

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go to heidi hollis.com

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it's really difficult just sound it out

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mm-hmm yeah

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and you'll also find i have facebook and

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twitter and

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youtube and all that good stuff

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everything is on there and i want to

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tell you guys how you can hear this

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program

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because inception radio network is

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everywhere they have their own app the

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irn app fantastic most of you guys

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listen to it through the app which is

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awesome

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only problem is i don't get as many live

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callers because of that but it's okay

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i'll survive it's all good and there's

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also a number you could dial that my

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parents use to just dial and listen to

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712-770-8888 so if all else fails you

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dial a number okay

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internet could be whatever whack a

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doodle wherever you go but the phone

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lines are usually pretty good anywhere

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you go aren't they

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i don't know um

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and i also welcome you guys to call into

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the program

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anybody that's listening live of course

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so the number get a pen

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or

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skype your comments and questions to

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inception radio network mj is working

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the boards and he will send that message

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on over to me and there is also a live

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chat room go to irnchat.com

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i will be there soon my internet was

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flipping out on me a minute ago but i

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will be in there soon

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so it is going to be a fantastic evening

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tonight is one of those nights people

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where i am for going i know i've been

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not doing this as much i've been doing

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my outlandish corner but i am going to

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skip it tonight because this is a

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special special show tonight and uh

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in regards to a good friend of mine but

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the

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outlandish corner i am still taking your

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emails so feel free to write me at dus

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outlander gmail.com that's diaz and

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david a esses and sam

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outlander gmail.com

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and i will get to your encounters your

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comments your questions about anything

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and everything out of the ordinary i do

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my best to lend a helping hand

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and uh yeah the last week was

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interesting i did the outlandish corner

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at the end of the show so you never know

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where i'm gonna throw the outlandish

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corner in there i usually do at the

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beginning of the show but last week

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it was a nice little kicker to the

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halloween show wasn't it i thought it

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was fun really big doozies of of emails

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and you know what the more details the

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better so feel free to send as much as

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you would like in those emails i am good

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i like the details and i think the

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listeners do too they're like oh that

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one was deep like i know right gives me

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chills so

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take your time think it out plan it out

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you want to call in to talk about it too

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we could schedule a time

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it's all good we could do that too but

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tonight like i said tonight is a special

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night

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not too long ago we lost a really

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special person when it comes to

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anything of mystery conspiracy even and

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that is jim

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mars he is a guy who actually

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gave me the opportunity to start on a

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discovery channel program

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that we're all cast in and

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pulled together i was on there with nick

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redfern joshua warren laura lee so many

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people reuben uracte is just a good crew

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of folks and uh and jim mars of course

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and it was produced by james castle and

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uh the creators of mythbusters it was

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really really cool to get put together

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awesome energy and jim mars was at the

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forefront of that i was living in

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australia at the time

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and uh got that call like we want you

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i'm like i'm on the next flight i'm

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coming and he gave me a really cool

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opportunity so i got to know him on a

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personal level and he gave me some

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really really cool advice as an author

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essentially you know if the publishers

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don't want to publish your stuff you put

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it out there yourself and he had like

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the biggest sense of humor the man was

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fully loaded with so much information

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and the humor to boot and the cool

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cowboy hat come on now he is

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just such a memorable character and

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really put a lot out there into the

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world

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i mean from every angle so he is going

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to be dearly missed we lost him a couple

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of months ago or so

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and we're going to be talking about him

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this evening and we're also going to

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have a guest coming on here

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i have

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the publisher and president of galaxy

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mr john goodwin everybody give a round

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of applause to john goodwin he is uh

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going to be discussing and now he's the

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publisher of battlefield earth by l ron

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hubbard you guys are familiar with that

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i'm sure very very powerful and uh

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ground breaking book so again ronald

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philos for mr john goodwin

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all right john are you there you gotta

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unmute i can't hear you are you there

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girl welcome to the show john how the

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heck are you

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thank you very much heidi great i'm i'm

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great it was uh

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it's been a beautiful day here and now

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i'm in right in the center of hollywood

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where i'm located about

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here on hollywood boulevard so uh

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i'm right in the middle of the land of

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nuts and fruits here

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so it's uh but the weather just

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the weather just changed it cooled down

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finally so uh at least is making it tall

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it was like

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yeah the degrees still it was yeah

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is happening around here for some reason

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we're getting some uh interference like

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it's gobbly gooking up all right you're

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in a good spot right pretty clear i'm in

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a great spot it shows i've got good

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signal everything yeah wow that's weird

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it just it sounded like alien language

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for a second but it's all good i can

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hear you now

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okay good you got it yeah i could

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check that alien back away i got to take

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that alien back away now yes

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back over to the corner

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exactly

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so at battlefield earth i mean so yeah

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it just keeps

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you guys are the winner of the 2017 audi

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so yeah

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that was quite

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for us on that because uh we put a lot

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of work into it and

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jim you mentioned you know we were

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talking uh yes with your introduction

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about jim mars he had read that book

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when it first came out in the early 80s

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and so it's quite familiar with it and a

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mutual friend suggested i contact him

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and he was very excited to uh talk about

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bethlehem he just he loves books period

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but he really likes battlefield earth

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and very much aligned to his

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uh researches into

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already happening

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the globalists and whatnot so he

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elwin hubbard's take on

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um he sometimes you know science fiction

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and satire go hand in glove so even

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though it's a it's a post-apocalyptic

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story it also tells the story of

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the big corporations what they do to

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gobble up you know the uh anything they

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want to in their in their sight to be

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able to make the ultimate profit so

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he really enjoyed this story for what it

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talked about that

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and so we did uh oh totally lost you it

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was uh oh there you go you're back

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you're cutting in and out pretty bad

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yeah oh my goodness wow i thought i lost

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you fully for a second never never

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you'll never lose me

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you're not dancing around are you no i

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was i leaned back in my chair and i

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immediately said oh okay i set up

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straight again so ah so there is there's

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a sensitive spot so i'm just getting

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straight for the next hour there you go

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evidently it's very sensitive okay i'm

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here and i'm not moving

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all right

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so uh so anyway with the audio bucket

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you were mentioning that it had the um

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the audio award it is the top honors

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given to audiobooks and

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it's uh the book itself is different

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than most

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holiday books because it's like a

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old-timer radio theater we had

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67 actors perform all the different

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characters oh yeah

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47 hours long it's it's just amazing

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over 150 000 sound effects so it really

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it's just a total

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tour de force on this and that's why it

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won the the top honor because it wasn't

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just because it was a good audiobook it

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was because it also brought people into

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listening to audiobooks because of the

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of its quality that is that's quite uh

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the the land of fruits and nuts pulled

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it out pulled it together that that's a

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fact

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wow it pays to live there in the midst

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of that wow in this case it definitely

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did we had some we had some amazing

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talent to work with

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my goodness did do you feel like you

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missed anything

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did you wish that you had a little bit

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more of something in it

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no it was a lot went into this so that

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was that was one thing it's good about

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is that we just the person that did the

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final mix for the audiobook had mixed

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some of the uh star trek movies so he

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definitely had the the

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perception of how to listen to a movie

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and that's what this is

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just listen to a movie it's your own

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visual track that gets added so however

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you envision the hero and the heroine

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and the enemies and all that stuff there

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it's you know the description is really

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good from the author but it's your

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pictures that

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will roll through and that's why

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uh it's so important to have so many

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sound effects because in actual fact

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sound will trigger an image if it's the

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exact image so like if you hear just a

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car driving at the sound of a car it's

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like okay it doesn't do anything but if

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you hear the sound of a rolls as

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compared to an mg as compared to

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volkswagen when you hear that volkswagen

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engine you you see a volkswagen you

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don't think it's something else or

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you know other sound effects too if you

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use the exact right one then that image

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will come up because it's science

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fiction what was done to handle aliens

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was we made it synthetic so that was

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computer gen computer generated sounds

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are the alien sounds and the people in

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the story are made with um organic

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sounds from the earth so

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it really a lot went into it to make it

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something that people can go like wow i

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get it

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wow that sounds fantastic i love the

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audio books and that just

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that really kind of pulls you into it it

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sounds like my totally dozen and if

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you're anybody that subscribes to

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audible you can get it for just one

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credit which is one thing that's amazing

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oh oh thanks for telling me i'm going to

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get it

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yeah

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that's wow that is is pretty wild so jim

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mars he had been uh

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kind of and still does really well right

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now in 2000

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wow oh you're cutting in and out again i

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i'm wondering i'm not moving this time

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this time it's uh

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it's the satellites changing

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yeah there you go

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it wasn't me

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good i'm wondering if i should have mj

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reconnect with you during our first

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break but we've got 15 minutes so that

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happens so it's all good okay

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so um

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so you the

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this this jim mars he was a fan of the

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book for a very long time

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and he was

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how did he get involved though i mean

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did he just bring you up

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no it was he had earlier been a fan of

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elren hubbard from his pulp days in the

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50s he had read his his some of his pulp

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stories from back then

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and so when this book came out he he

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read it

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and it was a mutual friend

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that told me that hey jim mars

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loves hubbard's fiction books give him a

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call and see if he read battlefield

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earth so i called him and he said how he

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loved it and i said would you like to be

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a spokesperson he said sure

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you know

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yeah that sounds like him yeah

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so we flew him out to los angeles and we

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met

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and um

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he actually had a convention he went to

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in

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and so we met him there

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and spent quite some time and spent more

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time in los angeles and then we invited

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him to an event up in san francisco

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which was alien con last year in 2016.

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and um

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that was when he wrote this booklet

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we'll talk about it later on alien

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invasion but when we started talking he

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was he talked about how much he you know

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he liked the story because of not just

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as alien invasion but because of

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um

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he definitely has an opinion or had an

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opinion on globalists and so

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he really saw what the

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the cyclos which are the big bad aliens

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their intergalactic mining company what

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they do to just uh savage um a planet

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you know to be able to pillage of all

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the uh natural resources and

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um he saw that's very similar to what

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you have happening here on earth where

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you have the big intergalactic the the

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inter um

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the huge global corporations going into

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these third world countries and they

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just like take it for whatever they can

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get it for

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and

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um

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they don't really worry about the

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indigenous life forms it's just like

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whatever we need is for the prophet and

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that's how

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these uh

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cyclos viewed earth and they they

403
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referred to the humans as just animals

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they're just animals and

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it was fortunate too that at that same

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time elon musk

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had come up

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with his comments about

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maybe ufos or what took out his

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you know his falcon 9

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and then

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earlier we had also stephen hawking that

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talked about

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um

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maybe what wasn't so smart putting

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a map on to the voyager which is what

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started the whole thing with battlefield

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earth maybe wasn't smart putting a map

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in here because we don't know what

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they're going to be like if they find it

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income here might be like

422
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columbus was with the american indians

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right

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it was good for columbus not so good for

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the native americans

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yeah it's like hey they want the land

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they want to explore they they want it

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just because they can

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and that's actually get here if they

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have the technology if they have the

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technology yep you're right

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i mean how are we on you know on planet

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earth you know

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the the haves

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are don't really have a whole lot of

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concern for the have-nots you know and

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the people with uh the the quote-unquote

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superior races in uh on earth

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don't really concern themselves over

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what they consider inferior races we've

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gone through real bad periods of that

442
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you know with um world war ii but it

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still goes on you still have it

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happening right now so

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um

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it's just something that

447
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why would we think they're going to be

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any different well if they're more

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educated they're going to be benevolent

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well the more educated we get here are

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we more benevolent you know so

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it he poses questions that stephen

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hawking posed those questions so it was

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very very timely with the release of the

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book and it remains timely because now

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the second voyager is also about to

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leave the heliosphere and hit deep space

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wow that's pretty amazing you know i

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i i always refer to because i'm into the

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the real alien stuff um yeah

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i always refer to the not just pretend

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stuff the real stuff well but it's very

463
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similar i mean these things come from

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far away and they're just you know

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for some reason a lot of people have

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this this notion because they're smarter

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than us uh why would they want land i

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mean they're so much more superior as if

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they don't have those guttural

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animalistic instincts either or

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something and like oh they wouldn't do

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such a thing they would just come here

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and smell the roses it's like

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they could be just like us and want the

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land and be the boss yeah just do it

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because they said so and want to burn up

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the oil or the gold or whatever it is so

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exactly and

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in our in the book that mr evan wrote it

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was the gold you know that was because

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it was a golden disc that they found

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that had the map to planet earth then

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they went to to mine the gold because it

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was the most valuable metals in the

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galaxy and then they also

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um would come in and just they don't

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care about anything they just want the

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gold and there's other stories or you

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know the water you know it could be

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whatever we have to offer that

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um we are the

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we're the vermin we're the plants and

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animals vermin you know so

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there's no reason to you know you know

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people will look at like well what about

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e.t

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what about ep you know that's hollywood

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right and

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yeah goodness it'd be great if that's

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what it was but that's a total you know

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for someone to assume that or base the

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future of planet earth on that as as the

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outcome is is unfounded

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yeah pretty pretty wild that

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i mean

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perhaps he uh he predicted

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he tapped into an unknown source to know

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the mindset of some of these uh beings

509
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that are really out there because um my

510
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goodness i i i honestly believe that the

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aliens that people report seeing these

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days are not good guys that they are

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kind of wanting stuff and they want to

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keep it to themselves and they want to

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victimize humans so um yeah

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i think it'd be very definite to think

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now one are potentially our our one

518
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saving grace and this is one thing that

519
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jim mars went over to is

520
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that uh this planet is so crazy that

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it's somewhat quarantined and so they

522
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stay clear of it because it's just you

523
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know the constant fighting with each

524
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other and the warring with each other

525
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and as soon as somebody gets a piece of

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technology they want to use that to be

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able to to dominate another and they

528
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just said that might be our saving grace

529
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that if someone actually studies this

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they go like whoa stay clear of these

531
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guys

532
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like well they've got some bad mojo you

533
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don't want that

534
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exactly

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you got the the stink

536
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you don't want to touch i

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they got you

538
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they got the cooties there on earth

539
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that's it cooties

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i am so certain you know i i honestly

541
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wouldn't be uh surprised if it was on

542
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the flip side too that you know they

543
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want to keep away

544
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but uh

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from what i hear i mean this there

546
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there's a lot of bad guys coming in here

547
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because there is some crazy stuff yeah

548
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yeah

549
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and right now the earth is definitely

550
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pretty and turbulated with you know the

551
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:05,440
recent

552
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,520
natural disasters and then also the

553
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human-made disasters too so it's a

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definite um

555
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,360
area to stay clear of right now until it

556
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chills out a bit

557
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yeah

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you know i've got uh we've got this chat

559
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,440
room that's going on and somebody's

560
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:21,200
asking you a question

561
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:23,840
in regards to uh i'm curious what you're

562
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,480
gonna do what you think uh if you

563
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:28,640
believe that ufos have been involved

564
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,840
with planet earth for thousands of years

565
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:35,039
um personally

566
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:36,720
absolutely

567
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,799
um that's just like um it's just uh

568
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,480
it just you be

569
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,080
i mean i realize that some people are

570
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,559
into the you know holding the the

571
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:49,200
doctrine that you know they don't exist

572
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:50,240
and

573
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:51,360
you know because you got one thing too

574
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,559
and again this is something that i had

575
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,559
great discussions with jim mars about

576
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,000
but a government

577
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,159
is supposed to

578
00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:00,000
protect its people

579
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,960
and

580
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,880
if they you know that's the same problem

581
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,720
you've got right now with uh with the

582
00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:06,320
nuclear deterrence it's like with that

583
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:08,159
existing

584
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:11,120
um you know on planet earth a government

585
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,640
is hard-pressed to protect its people

586
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,200
from um

587
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:17,280
invasion but now you take a look at this

588
00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:18,159
other

589
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:20,320
what if you have like aliens now ufos

590
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:21,679
and you have this you

591
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,360
you acknowledge that then automatically

592
00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,120
that government is no longer able to

593
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:29,360
wear its hat you know to protect its

594
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,559
people because

595
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:32,559
somebody else that comes in they could

596
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,440
totally um do whatever they want to and

597
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,039
the government united states or whatever

598
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,120
country would be

599
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:41,520
at its mercy and what to do and so jim

600
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:42,840
was also very

601
00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:45,840
much a believer that the constant denial

602
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:50,080
by the government is impart to that

603
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,919
you know that they do exist there's i

604
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,280
mean there's so much evidence to the

605
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:55,280
fact that they do exist and even so are

606
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:58,320
you you blinked out again on me

607
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:01,760
okay jesus i'm sorry that's all good it

608
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:03,039
happens

609
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,559
you're talking about aliens in the

610
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:08,480
government

611
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:15,590
oh boy it's all good

612
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,080
man so it you know i i think that our

613
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,400
government has a whole lot of splaining

614
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,640
to do that's all i'ma say because they

615
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,360
are awfully nosy with people who claim

616
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:27,520
to have seen something odd

617
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,159
too close or whatever it is and suddenly

618
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,640
they're getting kind of bullied and men

619
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:34,559
and black show up and they get

620
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,679
interrogated military abductions and

621
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:39,360
when uh jim mars when he would go and

622
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:43,039
and speak on behalf of uh battlefield

623
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,480
earth did he

624
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,320
bring up these types of things like

625
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:48,880
what's really going on absolutely

626
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,880
absolutely awesome

627
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:52,559
yeah it was

628
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,280
it was really good and he also um in

629
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,200
this booklet that we've made available

630
00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:58,880
anybody that's interested that the last

631
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:01,600
one that he wrote yeah he um

632
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,520
he has a session talk about remote

633
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,880
viewers

634
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,400
and um

635
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:08,480
that they're actually used by the you

636
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,760
know the government not just the us

637
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:10,799
government but also the russian

638
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,880
government that these are people that

639
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:14,559
you know are able to

640
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,159
perceive outside their body and see

641
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:18,799
what's going on and how they were used

642
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,549
some different things that happened and

643
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,640
it's very interesting in this

644
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:28,080
booklet that he wrote where he talks

645
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,280
about that

646
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,080
on russian phobos 2 how remote viewers

647
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,919
helped on that and then also on the us

648
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,440
mars observer

649
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:36,720
what happened to there and the remote

650
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,159
viewers what they're able to discern

651
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,840
but it's just it's just amazing how much

652
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:43,440
stuff goes on that just

653
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:47,039
if you indoctrinate in a people into

654
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,400
this is the way it is and you repeat it

655
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:49,679
over and over again

656
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,559
it's it's like um

657
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,679
the um

658
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,679
the basic game if you if you tell a big

659
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,360
enough live and just tell over and over

660
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,480
again eventually people will just

661
00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,159
believe it and that's what

662
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:01,919
um you have happening here it's just

663
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,760
they just tell over and over again just

664
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,840
deny deny deny deny

665
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,679
and then people okay well

666
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:09,440
if it was really true wouldn't we know

667
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,400
about it

668
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:12,080
you know becomes that mentality and it's

669
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:18,070
yeah it you know i find it always

670
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,600
fascinating that uh one person's word

671
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,840
can put another person behind bars for

672
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,000
the rest of their lives

673
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,000
but if a hundred people come forward and

674
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:31,120
say i saw aliens i saw this i saw that

675
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,480
they are not believed i i just

676
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:36,159
it's like it's not even taken to account

677
00:25:07,750 --> 00:24:36,799
i

678
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,760
would happen and

679
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,440
in the back of the book we have

680
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,440
published the last interview that was

681
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,360
done by mr hubbard after he published

682
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:15,039
battlefield earth originally

683
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:16,559
where he says i'm not saying that we're

684
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,760
going to be invaded but i am saying

685
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,679
this is something that we could do

686
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:23,360
if that were to happen and you know

687
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,039
here's a scenario that that could play

688
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:26,880
out if it were to happen and how we

689
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:29,679
could survive and he does one thing that

690
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,279
he is that he is saying which is

691
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:34,080
something that jim mars also was just

692
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:35,679
just right down the middle straight

693
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,200
agreeing with him on is that um

694
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:40,880
ultimately it's a human spirit that will

695
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,120
survive you know that's what's going to

696
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,440
make you know whether you know i make

697
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,960
jokes about how crazy people are and

698
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:49,120
stuff like that which

699
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:50,960
they are but

700
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,960
you know underneath all that there is a

701
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,520
human spirit that desire to survive that

702
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:57,279
will that's that's why we're surviving

703
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,799
so far right now you know you take a

704
00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:00,000
look at people that really do want to

705
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,360
make things go

706
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,960
and they're the ones that that move

707
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:05,360
things forward in with society and so

708
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,559
that's what he said and that's what jim

709
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,320
mars totally agreed with as well that's

710
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,400
and that's what the story communicates

711
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,559
it is that survival of the human spirit

712
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:15,039
that will ultimately prevail over

713
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,000
um

714
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,640
these enemies that that are basically

715
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,400
trying to just dominate and it's not

716
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,760
just earth that they were dominating

717
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,400
it's other civilizations as well

718
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,960
right right i hear you uh you know i

719
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,880
have to say it's like uh

720
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,120
jim mars i mean what a what a

721
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,080
true and blue character

722
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,720
super encyclopedia of everything on the

723
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,600
planet i i just i when i heard that he

724
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,000
had taken on this project and and

725
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,159
representing i was like is there no

726
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:46,240
limit to this man

727
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,039
like no it was amazing and we just yeah

728
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,960
i loved you know we

729
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:52,240
we flew him out to l.a a couple

730
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,679
different times and

731
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,080
i said we traveled to um

732
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,520
other a few different

733
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:59,679
conventions together we became great

734
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:01,120
friends he did over 100 interviews

735
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,400
working with us

736
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,960
but in in so doing i just got to really

737
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:07,279
know the guy and he was um you were

738
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,400
talking about how

739
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,320
just what a cheerful guy he was and he

740
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,919
didn't really get

741
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,760
upset by the people and people would

742
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,080
challenge him and they'd argue with them

743
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,520
and he said okay well we can agree to

744
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,480
disagree and that was his attitude and

745
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:23,520
what he he did have one outlet for when

746
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,240
things got a little bit stressful he had

747
00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:28,880
a cannon he kept in the backyard of his

748
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,060
home in texas

749
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:32,720
[Laughter]

750
00:27:36,390 --> 00:27:34,640
he had a cannon and he loved to shoot

751
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,400
his cannon

752
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,000
oh he might not you know he just

753
00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:42,710
he said i just go pull that and just go

754
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:50,390
he said i got my cannon i'm gonna go

755
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:51,760
shoot my cannon

756
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,480
that is freaking hilarious that so

757
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,120
sounds like a great way to vent and

758
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,640
something that he would do well we've

759
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,640
got to get to our first break

760
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:02,000
you guys you're listening to me heidi

761
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:03,600
hollis the outlander and we will be

762
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,470
welcome back everybody you're listening

763
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,240
to me heidi hollis the outlander

764
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:11,919
remembering always if it's weird we're

765
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:14,080
here we're giving advice and insight on

766
00:28:17,789 --> 00:28:15,919
outlandish topics phone lines are always

767
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:17,799
open

768
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,240
1-888-919-2355 but i realize most of you

769
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,640
guys listen to this show through the app

770
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,159
so you're not listening to us live but

771
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,080
we're having a lively time because i

772
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,399
have the president and publisher of

773
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,399
galaxy press john goodwin

774
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:32,640
and we're talking about everything alien

775
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:35,360
and gym mars which kind of go together

776
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:36,480
they do

777
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:37,760
indeed

778
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,559
yeah

779
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:40,640
so um during the break you were

780
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,559
mentioning how

781
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,640
it there's another book that's coming

782
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,600
forward

783
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:47,520
what is this yes

784
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,240
so after um erin hubbard wrote and

785
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,080
published battlefield earth

786
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,559
he then wrote a series of ten volume

787
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:55,919
series um

788
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:59,360
called mission earth and it's uh

789
00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,159
if

790
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:01,679
there were also all 10 books where new

791
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,960
york times bestsellers when they came

792
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,200
out as well and what makes them special

793
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,520
is well

794
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:10,320
battlefield earth is epic sci-fi

795
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,000
post-apocalyptic taking place a thousand

796
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,880
years in the future mission earth is

797
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,360
current it takes place right now and

798
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,039
even though he wrote in the 80s it's

799
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:21,360
just as appropriate now as it was back

800
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:22,240
then

801
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,440
um emission earth is a mission to keep

802
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,600
earth from destroying itself

803
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,919
and it's a um

804
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:31,440
basically

805
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:32,480
um

806
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:34,880
take you know satire so

807
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:37,600
um it's it's basically it's written as a

808
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,640
confession of the um when the arch

809
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:42,880
villains of this story

810
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:43,840
and

811
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,919
the the what we have here on this this

812
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,000
copy of the book is discover a world

813
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,840
where corporate power rules and

814
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,840
political corruption is rife where

815
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,360
governments are driven by oil and

816
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,840
controlled by drugs where global warming

817
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,520
is getting hotter by the minute and his

818
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,039
scorching love affair could determine

819
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,039
the fate of millions where a cosmic

820
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,279
conspiracy is about to hit home posing a

821
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,360
grave danger to earth and one

822
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,520
charismatic vultarian general heller is

823
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:10,000
out to save the planet from itself

824
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,799
so it's a total viewpoint of

825
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:15,039
uh an alien looking at earth and so it

826
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,760
points out you know where you've got a

827
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:19,760
planet that's controlled by

828
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,720
uh the arch bad guy from earth is a guy

829
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,039
named john d rocket center

830
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,559
and um

831
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,960
it goes on from there just with all of

832
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,240
the uh the

833
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,919
one of the bases in atheon turkey and

834
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:33,600
they have it there because they use all

835
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:34,399
the

836
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,520
um

837
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,200
to get the government

838
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,640
agencies

839
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,440
the wives of the ministers uh hooked so

840
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,600
they can then blackmail the ministers to

841
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:51,039
do what they want it just goes on and on

842
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,399
and on about

843
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,120
what was really going on in on planet

844
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:57,279
earth and now they're trying to

845
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,799
mission earth is trying to handle it so

846
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,159
that it doesn't destroy itself from

847
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:02,320
pollution and from drugs and from

848
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,679
the crime

849
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,279
it's it's quite amazing and it's just

850
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,039
like i said it was 10 book series it's

851
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,159
science fiction satire 10.

852
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,159
10 books it's just like i said he wrote

853
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,080
it was 1.2 million words he wrote it in

854
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:16,000
nine months it was just like amazing

855
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,919
he's just who does that did he write in

856
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,600
his sleep

857
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:21,760
he was it was very politic he was

858
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:22,720
um

859
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,039
even in the 30s and 40s as a writer of

860
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,880
pulp fiction he was one of the most

861
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:29,360
prolific writers he in in that time

862
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,559
period he was writing about a hundred

863
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,600
thousand words a month and um

864
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,360
because he traveled so much as an

865
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,760
adventurer and explorer he was able to

866
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,360
use a lot of what he learned from

867
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:41,200
traveling the world

868
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,799
in his stories and because nobody else

869
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,000
did that

870
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,080
hardly at all then he was he was a

871
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,840
member of the explorers club and he was

872
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:48,799
uh

873
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,679
a barnstorming pilot and he was a master

874
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,919
mariner so his travels added a lot of

875
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,919
authenticity to his stories

876
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:58,399
which um made him such a one of the top

877
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,919
best-selling authors and why he was

878
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:01,200
brought in

879
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,039
by a publishing house called street and

880
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:04,720
smith to

881
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:06,960
write for a new magazine then called

882
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,840
astounding science fiction and john w

883
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:11,360
campbell who was the editor then was

884
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:14,000
told take whatever ellen hubbard uh

885
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,519
wrote and published it because they

886
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:17,279
wanted to start humanizing science

887
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,320
fiction

888
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:20,480
so he took with that experience and he

889
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,440
came out with battlefield earth and

890
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:23,279
mission earth and he was incredibly

891
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,320
prolific

892
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:26,399
at the time he was he was

893
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,000
selling basically 90 of his work uh

894
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,080
first first draft first submission it

895
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:34,799
was it was being published like that so

896
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,039
he could he definitely writes uh put out

897
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,519
the wordage so yeah it was uh amazing

898
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,279
what he was able to do with

899
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,880
writing this book

900
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,360
my goodness uh stephen king who i mean

901
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,039
what

902
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:50,640
this guy was something else i i did not

903
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,760
realize that so he was uh he was beyond

904
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,480
his time big time yeah definitely that

905
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:57,919
and when you say that you love

906
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:01,120
audiobooks what i'll what i'll um

907
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,200
make sure i'll get with carmen after

908
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:05,279
this i'll send you a copy of the first

909
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,480
audio book

910
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,480
for in synthetic so you can get an

911
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,960
advanced taste of it oh my gosh so we

912
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:12,720
can talk about later on

913
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,720
i would yeah

914
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:16,000
yeah that one there's not available so

915
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,840
i'll have to send that to you in advance

916
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:19,200
but the battlefield you can get that

917
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,640
like i said from um

918
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,720
audible right now just for one credit oh

919
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,640
my god thank you john that is so

920
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:26,399
freaking awesome i love it i mean

921
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,000
especially driving and crazy traffic

922
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,399
here in chicago you just put

923
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,960
your book in you and you escape see i

924
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:34,720
don't need a cannon i just put in an

925
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:40,710
no cannons no no cannons required

926
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,679
yeah

927
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,519
but you know getting back to jim mars

928
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:45,120
and uh this

929
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,559
booklet that you guys are so generously

930
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,640
uh giving out for free you guys you got

931
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:52,960
to go to inception radio network and go

932
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,200
to the outlander show and tonight's

933
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:57,279
episode november 3rd

934
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,039
and uh you'll see in john goodwin's

935
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:03,919
little profile there there'll be a link

936
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:08,079
to the free pdf of uh that this is you

937
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,280
said this is the last writings of

938
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,919
jim mars yes he on the subject on this

939
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,280
sub he had another book that he released

940
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,879
but it was a whole different area that

941
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,520
was but this in terms of aliens ufos

942
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,679
this is the last thing he ever wrote on

943
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,000
that and um it's interesting story how

944
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,639
it came about it if if i could uh take a

945
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,119
few minutes and tell you yes please do

946
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:30,480
yeah so

947
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,760
um

948
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,599
because he did so many radio shows he

949
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,040
was there's certain questions he was

950
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,359
always being asked so he asked can i put

951
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,040
together something

952
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,200
and this was in preparation of going to

953
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,679
aliencon up in san jose

954
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:45,359
and so he said sure you know we'd love

955
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,079
that so he wrote out this um this

956
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:49,760
booklet it's you know it's not that long

957
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:53,040
it's only like uh what it does

958
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:53,839
yeah

959
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:58,079
um but he put it together just as a

960
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,280
summation of

961
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,359
why he you know appreciated battlefield

962
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:02,960
earth and how it tied in with what was

963
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,440
happening right now on ufos

964
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:08,000
and his own studies you know summation

965
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,280
of that and he

966
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,040
he actually addressed like i mentioned

967
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,800
earlier in the show about stephen

968
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:14,560
hawking and elon musk what they had to

969
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,079
say but he also got into the whole

970
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:21,440
1952 the epidemic of ufo sightings both

971
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,160
in the ufa usa and other nations and the

972
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,000
number of in the

973
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,599
the order that was sent to shoot down

974
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:30,720
ufos and how our jets were being shot

975
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,599
down until that order was rescinded and

976
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,200
at that point it was only then report it

977
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,200
and not shoot him down and so then our

978
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,680
jet pack stopped getting shot down so he

979
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:42,079
went over that whole thing there

980
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:43,440
um

981
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:46,240
so it was it's really amazing what he

982
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:47,359
what he

983
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,960
whole thing together from h.g wells and

984
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,680
war of the worlds and um some of the

985
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:55,920
other stories of how they

986
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:58,560
lent themselves to creating an

987
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,119
acceptance of that and then he was also

988
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,520
the special report from iron mountain he

989
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,440
talks about that in here so there's a

990
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,079
lot of really good material that anybody

991
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,400
that that has studied this can get okay

992
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,240
this is this is pretty cool what he

993
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:13,760
writes it's not the in-depth stuff but

994
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,240
it's a he takes these things but then

995
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,480
now he assumes you you've already got

996
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,480
some understanding of

997
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,960
the real story of ufos and he goes into

998
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,560
this and just touches hey look at here

999
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,880
you go it's like come on guys open your

1000
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:28,320
eyes this is what this is what's going

1001
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,280
on

1002
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,920
right yeah no i think this is a

1003
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,320
really well thought out uh analogy of

1004
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,079
the the whole scenario that you just

1005
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,760
explained it's

1006
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:39,839
it's quite in-depth for being as brief

1007
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:42,160
as as it is to be honest yeah and yeah

1008
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:43,680
it is

1009
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,800
i mean that man's mind runs deep so

1010
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,480
i know it was amazing you know we'd go

1011
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,680
out and have our

1012
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,839
he loved his burgers and beer so we'd go

1013
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,200
and have our uh

1014
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:55,040
and if he couldn't have the burgers he

1015
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,320
at least wanted to have his beer he

1016
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,599
loved you know

1017
00:37:03,750 --> 00:36:59,119
being able to do that and just he's just

1018
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:05,670
oh it's breaking up on us

1019
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:06,880
you know

1020
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,800
there we go sorry so am i here you got

1021
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,400
me yep i got you

1022
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,880
okay good i heard beer

1023
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:15,119
yeah beer here we go

1024
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,480
so

1025
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,760
you know he was just talking about the

1026
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:19,040
different um

1027
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:20,560
you know his research that he was done

1028
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,280
and he just he was very methodical you

1029
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,760
know and yeah it's it's funny the other

1030
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,240
side of that how methodically it was

1031
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,800
when um his wife carol called us and

1032
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,119
told us the morning that he passed away

1033
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,200
saying you know we were all shocked

1034
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,440
because a week before we had spoken with

1035
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,599
her and she said yeah he should be he's

1036
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,960
starting to recovery she'd be getting

1037
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,320
about two weeks to get back and doing

1038
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,839
interviews again

1039
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,880
okay good

1040
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,040
so a week later she called and said he

1041
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:48,800
passed away um we were totally not

1042
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,960
expecting that i can assure you

1043
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,640
yeah and um

1044
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,800
he was um just when i talked to her

1045
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:57,359
before his uh funeral she said um

1046
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:58,640
whatever you want

1047
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,960
we got two homes and it's just full of

1048
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,400
all kinds he never threw anything away

1049
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:04,240
she said all those researchers all those

1050
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,359
papers

1051
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,839
ticket stubs from shows he went to you

1052
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,839
know 40 years ago they're still there he

1053
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,680
just didn't throw anything away he was

1054
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:14,000
just you know in his mind everything but

1055
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,720
he also had so much of the his research

1056
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,640
he just kept there for

1057
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,880
reference as as needed and stuff because

1058
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,359
he the books that he wrote you know like

1059
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,119
the um

1060
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,079
alien agenda crossfire rule by secrecy

1061
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:29,839
he makes a lot of statements there that

1062
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:32,079
he's claiming this is this is what's

1063
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,920
what went down and this is what's going

1064
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,000
down so he had to substantiate

1065
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:38,079
everything he said so his you know his

1066
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,760
references that he put in the back of

1067
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,599
his books he kept all that material to

1068
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,119
hand so that someone were to challenge

1069
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:45,119
you say no here you go here's the

1070
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,240
material and it's it was just amazing

1071
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,359
the guy was just totally totally amazing

1072
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,040
he i thought his brain was an

1073
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,359
encyclopedia apparently his home is the

1074
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,800
encyclopedia

1075
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,079
all of that yeah because dude

1076
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,240
his mind having everything in it is is

1077
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,000
absolutely correct but then

1078
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,920
others wouldn't have to corroborate that

1079
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:07,920
for any books he'd have to say well look

1080
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,440
how can you say this and you have the

1081
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,599
material to show okay

1082
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,280
because he definitely would make some he

1083
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,040
definitely makes some propositions

1084
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:17,839
that don't go with the the norm that's

1085
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,880
for sure truly you know i i

1086
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:23,119
when he passed i mean it it really was

1087
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,040
an unexpected turn because he was

1088
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:27,440
getting better and it was really

1089
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,920
just heartbreaking to hear and i don't

1090
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:31,760
think he realized well i think he did

1091
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,480
how much he was loved i i i mean

1092
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,640
out there in the the world

1093
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,480
period i i heard that he would go

1094
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,800
walking through the airport and he'd

1095
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,960
often be stopped and and they'd want a

1096
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,880
selfie and he's just okay here i mean

1097
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,880
you can't miss him with his hat

1098
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:49,040
no he's his fedora is just definitely

1099
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,200
yeah that was his his his definite

1100
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,599
trademark that he had no he has i

1101
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,720
experienced that with him when i

1102
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,400
traveled with him people would stop and

1103
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,560
say are you jim mars said i read your

1104
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:00,079
book i love that that was great and you

1105
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,760
just said yeah

1106
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,000
you know he was great with that and uh

1107
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:06,000
but he with it with all the radio shows

1108
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,119
that he did

1109
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,280
um it definitely kept him

1110
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,480
um

1111
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,160
basically up to speed with just how much

1112
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:14,960
he was loved as uh as a guest we'd have

1113
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,400
other radio shows on people would call

1114
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,720
and say i love your book this i love

1115
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,240
your book standard this is great thank

1116
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,920
you so much for everything you do to

1117
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,440
expose the truth

1118
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,920
and um i said when we were up at alien

1119
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,200
con it was just

1120
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,880
he stayed we had we gave him a space in

1121
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,720
our in our booth we brought um

1122
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,960
when we released the book we crashed a

1123
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,880
huge spaceship on hollywood boulevard we

1124
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,400
shut down howard boulevard and crashed a

1125
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,440
big spaceship oh that was weird

1126
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:41,440
yeah

1127
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,640
i love it

1128
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:44,880
yeah it was great so when we did that we

1129
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,040
brought that spaceship up to aliencon

1130
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,599
and set it up there and his his table

1131
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,040
was right with ours right in front of

1132
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,119
the spaceship and there was always huge

1133
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,880
lines and the panels he was on were

1134
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,040
always the biggest panels it was just he

1135
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,040
was so well respected

1136
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,520
oh gosh yes i i mean he

1137
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,000
he was just a gem he really really

1138
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,480
helped give me a good start and

1139
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,880
understanding and the publishing world

1140
00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:10,880
because i write books on aliens hello we

1141
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,520
should talk um

1142
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:14,800
[Laughter]

1143
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,000
aliens demons but mine are non-fiction

1144
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,359
but uh still it's hey you you you have

1145
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,839
jim mars rubbing you so i'm sure you get

1146
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,000
it but yeah i mean he was a king of

1147
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,599
non-fiction he was totally non-fiction

1148
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,760
he just yeah but sometimes you need a

1149
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,040
little sometimes you need a science

1150
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,119
fiction story to kind of like open up

1151
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,280
the idea and you know it was able to

1152
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,800
open up discussion because people asked

1153
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,240
about this story and then and then it

1154
00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:40,640
was very easy to bridge over to the

1155
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,040
non-fiction and that it really made it

1156
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,960
so easy for him to talk about the

1157
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,119
non-fiction by by entering in with the

1158
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:49,680
fiction you know i i don't know if you

1159
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,560
run into people uh that are really

1160
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:55,359
looking for answers about paranormal

1161
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,160
aspects science science fiction like uh

1162
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,319
aspects and alien aspects

1163
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:03,680
and they feel like they are getting

1164
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:06,400
messages through the movies that are out

1165
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:09,040
the books that are out the uh do you

1166
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,640
come across people are like you know i

1167
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,319
feel like that spoke to me and it really

1168
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,800
addresses what's going on right now and

1169
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,040
i've seen something like this i mean do

1170
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,119
you get people that cross over that have

1171
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,440
had personal experiences and find

1172
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,960
answers in the science fiction books

1173
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,720
that you get you put out

1174
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:26,560
i have and

1175
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,480
most of that comes up when i attend one

1176
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,480
of the conventions where people feel

1177
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,000
comfortable to come up and just say hey

1178
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,920
yeah now i love that book and it just

1179
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,760
and then they go tell their own story

1180
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,200
you know sometimes

1181
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,440
um you know like i said

1182
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,960
at uh we attend a lot of comic cons um i

1183
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,280
love those oh yeah we do the san diego

1184
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:48,000
comic-con salt lake city is really good

1185
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,680
um up in toronto in um

1186
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:54,160
and uh atlanta the dragon con so we do a

1187
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,280
lot of those things a lot of people will

1188
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,119
come up and just you know there's it's

1189
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,560
very comfortable environment to be able

1190
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,480
to start talking and some people

1191
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,920
originate that and sometimes we have

1192
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,839
people in the military we'll say yeah

1193
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:06,000
this is i experienced this or

1194
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,119
um

1195
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,119
also because of a

1196
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,480
program that we have called writers of

1197
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,599
the future

1198
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:14,079
where we newly published 12 writers

1199
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,160
every year and 12 artists in a contest

1200
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,720
that mr hubbard started in 1983

1201
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:19,920
and

1202
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:22,160
because science fiction

1203
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,950
his introduction to battlefield earth we

1204
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,160
have a lot of

1205
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,680
keynote speakers that are events that

1206
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:33,280
have been astronauts

1207
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,240
and so they've told their stories about

1208
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:38,880
you know their encounter with ufos that

1209
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,839
they can't say about publicly because

1210
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:43,760
they're they're definitely told that

1211
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:44,960
you're going to

1212
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,319
will cut off your

1213
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:50,319
your whatevers you know

1214
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,599
about it

1215
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:53,599
so they so they can't say about you know

1216
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,880
and they can't show the pictures but

1217
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,640
they can definitely talk about what

1218
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,240
they've observed and experience when

1219
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,599
they're in space

1220
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,880
and so um

1221
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:02,079
it's uh

1222
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:03,200
you know it's

1223
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,319
mostly i find that when i'm actually

1224
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:05,839
talking people face to face not so much

1225
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,200
on email or phone

1226
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,839
i hear you my goodness yeah so this is

1227
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:13,760
like are you a kid in a candy shop with

1228
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,880
all this stuff i mean oh i still am

1229
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,920
like

1230
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,400
jim oh it's a blast a hoot and a half

1231
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:21,599
you know i have when i go out there and

1232
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,960
talk to people

1233
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,720
and i love for me reading is an

1234
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:26,880
important thing period and

1235
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:29,440
so having some having some

1236
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,560
some good

1237
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,560
fiction that doesn't require you know

1238
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:34,160
that doesn't get into

1239
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:35,359
um

1240
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,880
you know immorality as the punchline and

1241
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:39,920
doesn't

1242
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,000
rely upon sex and drugs and profanity to

1243
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,760
entertain it's just this is just good

1244
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,200
high interest which is what jim liked

1245
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:48,880
about it as well

1246
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:50,800
it's just for me i'm on a mission also

1247
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:53,280
just literacy is is one of the solutions

1248
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:54,319
to

1249
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,400
uh crime and non-productivity so

1250
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:00,160
i'm really big on that in fact in a

1251
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,359
couple weeks i've got a big event with

1252
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:04,240
toys for tots the the general the the

1253
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,680
president ceo of choice for tots is

1254
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:06,880
coming to our offices we have a big

1255
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:09,440
dinner we donate a lot to toys for tots

1256
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,400
because

1257
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,319
um anyway that's just that's a another

1258
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,280
story but i do a lot try to to promote

1259
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,960
literacy and and

1260
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,640
so these stories are very pro

1261
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:21,040
used for that too for kids that have

1262
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,720
reading requirements in school that the

1263
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,800
battlefield earth is listed with so with

1264
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,160
accelerated reader and they get i think

1265
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,800
it's 56 points and the kids go crazy

1266
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:30,079
with that because they can get almost a

1267
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,960
whole year's worth of reading

1268
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,160
requirements but just by reading this

1269
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,520
one book

1270
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,119
oh my

1271
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,119
yeah which is great for middle school

1272
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,359
yeah from middle school on up yeah

1273
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,079
oh my goodness cheers you know i'm on

1274
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,079
your site right now and i'm clicking

1275
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,280
through all of the different categories

1276
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,839
that elrond hubbard wrote in

1277
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,119
and it's just

1278
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:53,760
mystifying like his how his brain could

1279
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:56,560
go there and go so deep

1280
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,000
western everybody westerns even no yeah

1281
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:02,079
he wrote 32 i think 32 to western

1282
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:04,160
stories and my favorite because he had

1283
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,079
wrote with 15 different pen names my

1284
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,240
favorite pen name of his was uh

1285
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,720
wr colt which stood for winchester

1286
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:12,839
remington colt you know

1287
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,319
so but he wrote a lot just yeah he wrote

1288
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,079
a lot of different um in all the

1289
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,920
different genres adventure mystery

1290
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:22,000
western science fiction fantasy some

1291
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,200
romance

1292
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,960
um you know it was just

1293
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,319
and he like i said he traveled a lot so

1294
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:28,960
he was able to write a lot and and

1295
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,520
yeah we just did a big show yesterday on

1296
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,280
westerns his westerns because he's one

1297
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,520
of the most popular western writers

1298
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:37,200
him along with uh

1299
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:38,319
um

1300
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,599
you know some of

1301
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,280
you know the american popular western

1302
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,079
writers but it's just it's um

1303
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:46,640
it's quite fun because i love reading i

1304
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,240
love talking to people like to read

1305
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,680
because they're normally much more

1306
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,520
educated than those that don't

1307
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,119
and i it gives me an opportunity to meet

1308
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:54,720
people like yourself on radio shows too

1309
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:57,839
which i totally love doing oh that

1310
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,599
i have so much fun doing this show i'm

1311
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,440
like i i always say if i can sound like

1312
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,920
i can totally tell from your trolls

1313
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:05,520
you know it's just

1314
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,800
for you it's

1315
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,960
it's it's just it's a you have fun it's

1316
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,160
like you have fun with this thing that's

1317
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,480
it really communicates well

1318
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,720
you know you love what you're doing oh

1319
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,400
my gosh i say if i could do this in my

1320
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:18,640
sleep i would and i think i am right now

1321
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:24,390
yeah i i so did this and it's like you

1322
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,839
know uh carmen had even uh shared

1323
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:30,160
there's a competition that that you guys

1324
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,440
have for

1325
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:33,040
artists to

1326
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,800
um draw for understand yeah yeah writers

1327
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,079
for

1328
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,119
called writers of the future and

1329
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,800
illustrates the future and it's

1330
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,720
uh we have a website called the future

1331
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,720
and it's free to enter it's open to

1332
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,000
anyone it's not been professionally

1333
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,839
published we have entries from over 160

1334
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:51,520
countries that come in

1335
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,560
um

1336
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,720
it's the biggest competition of its kind

1337
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:56,880
in the world and every year we publish

1338
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,560
12 winning writers and 12 winning

1339
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,400
artists and it's open to anybody likes

1340
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,640
to enter and we've got people's

1341
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:04,079
you know from middle school all the way

1342
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:04,880
up our

1343
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,160
oldest oldest

1344
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:08,079
contest was 101.

1345
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:09,599
that's opening anybody

1346
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,079
that's amazing he's pre-entered he keeps

1347
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,880
trying to get me to to join in on it i'm

1348
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,720
a cartoonist too and

1349
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,119
i just learned oh wow

1350
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,520
yeah millions of readers oh my gosh it's

1351
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,680
been crazy i just learned the other day

1352
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,440
that it's in the millions now i'm like

1353
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,800
oh oh

1354
00:48:31,390 --> 00:48:28,960
so it's a paranormal comic it's called

1355
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,400
the outlanders you'll see it on the

1356
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,359
inceptionradionetwork.com their front

1357
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,359
page it's it's there

1358
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,559
and uh

1359
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:38,960
it's just been crazy and so when carmen

1360
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,440
heard and uh carmen says buddy you guys

1361
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,280
if you don't know um

1362
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,880
and he's like

1363
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,079
you gotta put your stuff in the

1364
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,480
competition i'm like i said oh that

1365
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:50,720
sounds like fun i i i'll definitely

1366
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,200
check that out so writers

1367
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:55,200
yeah yeah righteously future.com some of

1368
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,559
them are original judges for that

1369
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,640
contest or since you said you were you

1370
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,079
know into uh

1371
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,359
into like cartoons and comics

1372
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,119
ed cartier was one of the first judges

1373
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,800
will eisner he's got the eisner word

1374
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,079
right now comic con is given frank

1375
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:09,839
rosetta was a judge

1376
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,520
uh jack kirby

1377
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,000
uh these are all the original creators

1378
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,119
of of uh sequential art and they were

1379
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,920
the first judges of this contest

1380
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,280
so it's um

1381
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:24,160
it's definitely bonafide and

1382
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,760
very much

1383
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,200
an amazing way for a person to get their

1384
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,800
name known and started because it is

1385
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,720
such a high reputation

1386
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:33,520
yeah 33 years you've been doing this yes

1387
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,480
yes

1388
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:36,960
it's wild and it's just wild i'm like i

1389
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,760
i've gotta get on it i swear i'm like

1390
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:41,920
i'm juggling the shows i'm writing books

1391
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,400
and and i'm i'm cartooning and i'm never

1392
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:46,000
bored and i'm always laughing and having

1393
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:47,520
a good old time with it

1394
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:50,319
which is awesome totally awesome

1395
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,599
it's like okay i'm gonna do a

1396
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,440
competition next why not let's just have

1397
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:56,079
fun what the heck

1398
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,520
and then when you when you come out here

1399
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,280
you can broadcast from the from the

1400
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,040
awards ceremony in hollywood it's a

1401
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:03,359
black it's a it's a red carpet it's a

1402
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:04,880
big red carpet event we do for the

1403
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:08,400
winners i see the stage that you guys

1404
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,200
put it on wasn't that amazing

1405
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,440
yeah that was that was cover art done

1406
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,400
um

1407
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,160
from the book that we then made into the

1408
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:18,640
stage and uh larry elmore who's the guy

1409
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,000
that created the original dungeons and

1410
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,400
dragons artwork is the one that painted

1411
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:24,640
that and he was there on if you go on

1412
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,440
that

1413
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,040
on the website you can look at the

1414
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,280
opening event it's it's him painting on

1415
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,200
stage as the opening act with fire

1416
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,520
dancers so that was a pretty good

1417
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,800
opening

1418
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:36,720
you guys like going over the top don't

1419
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:40,400
you we love it we love it yes

1420
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,520
you've got the best job in the world

1421
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:46,160
i certainly do along with you

1422
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:49,599
oh i i love this this is so much fun i

1423
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,640
just put in the website uh the on the

1424
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,240
chat group for you guys writers of the

1425
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,119
future.com you've got to see it it's

1426
00:51:00,950 --> 00:51:00,079
fantastic oh my goodness i am so digging

1427
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,960
this

1428
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,400
and you know

1429
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:04,960
i'm looking at uh

1430
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:07,119
i don't i haven't seen many pictures of

1431
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,079
l ron hubbard was he a person that

1432
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,000
liked to step out and

1433
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,800
be seen or was he kind of yeah

1434
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,800
not at all that's that's really funny

1435
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,920
because he was

1436
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:19,680
that's that's the opposite of what he

1437
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,040
was um there's there's a site called l1

1438
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:24,880
hubbard.org which he has a bunch of

1439
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,280
pictures him from all the way from

1440
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,040
as the baby all the way up through all

1441
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,480
of his adventures he was he was

1442
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,319
lieutenant the navy his whole section on

1443
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,400
the military he was america's youngest

1444
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,240
eagle scout he just turned 13 he became

1445
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:37,680
eagle scout there's a whole section on

1446
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,640
that

1447
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,839
he was um

1448
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,079
by the time he's 19 he'd already um

1449
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:43,839
sailed to the orient three different

1450
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:45,200
times um

1451
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,319
he was uh

1452
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,760
you know so he's there's a lot of

1453
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:49,920
pictures of all his whole lifetime so

1454
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:52,000
yeah there's plenty of photos there on

1455
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,680
that site over on humber.org if somebody

1456
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,119
wants to see that

1457
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,040
oh i'm gonna look yeah you know it's

1458
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:58,640
funny because it's like i usually just

1459
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:01,440
see that head-on picture

1460
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,440
him sitting there looking like a

1461
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,760
he's in a almost an adventure like tie

1462
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,240
around his neck and you know like that's

1463
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,559
that's what i usually see him as and and

1464
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,240
here he is quite accomplished quite

1465
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:15,119
young an eagle scout that took some time

1466
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,880
for most people so he was the youngest

1467
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,359
ever or at the time yeah at the time we

1468
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,520
don't he just it was a few days after 13

1469
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,760
he received his award and he went

1470
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,440
and he met calvin coolidge as

1471
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,000
representing the boy scouts of america

1472
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,920
and he had a little entry in his journal

1473
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,880
on that talking about meeting the

1474
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:33,119
president it was like okay it was like

1475
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,160
uh

1476
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:36,319
whatever he went he had his adventures

1477
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,200
to do

1478
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,440
and he was a barnstorming pilot so he

1479
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,440
was he was a glider pilot and and

1480
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:43,119
crashed and tells that story about

1481
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:44,720
crashing and

1482
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:47,760
um he's barnstorming around from uh

1483
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,400
cornfield to cornfield and

1484
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,599
trading rides for gas and spare parts to

1485
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,400
keep going this is when he was uh

1486
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,640
between his freshman sophomore year at

1487
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:00,880
george washington university so

1488
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,040
yeah he was he definitely was all over

1489
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,079
the place he was hardly a recluse

1490
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,319
overachiever hello

1491
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,160
hello hello

1492
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:12,000
yeah you see people when they come to

1493
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:13,599
our offices here they go to they come

1494
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:14,720
into the uh

1495
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,079
on the library in the fourth floor and

1496
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,559
they just kind of like like jesus i wish

1497
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,880
i i needed to get a life

1498
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,880
yeah we've gotta get to our next break

1499
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:24,240
you guys you're listening to me heidi

1500
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:25,680
hollis the outlander and we will be

1501
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,630
welcome back everybody you're listening

1502
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,400
to me heidi hollis the outlander

1503
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:34,160
remembering always if it's weird we're

1504
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:37,760
here and uh john is is chowing down

1505
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,240
because he's been starving and working

1506
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,119
all day long it's cracking me up cause

1507
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,839
he's trying to chug a drink uh

1508
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,760
some some kind of a

1509
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:49,920
blended drink that's supposed to be good

1510
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:51,280
for you i take it that's what you're

1511
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:52,640
having it's good for at least a half an

1512
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,589
oh my goodness man i i swear it i

1513
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,920
understand how those days go sometimes

1514
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,599
like back to back to back to back and

1515
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:05,119
it's like but you've got good spirits

1516
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,760
about you so all is well

1517
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,960
yeah it's totally all as well like i

1518
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,800
said i can't i couldn't imagine i'd have

1519
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,400
to be dead to not be anything other than

1520
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:15,040
enthusiastic talking to you oh gee see

1521
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:18,160
that's cool that's good to hear

1522
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,030
exactly

1523
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,119
[Laughter]

1524
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,599
so with all the projects and all these

1525
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,760
different things that you're juggling

1526
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:27,680
is there something that

1527
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,599
you're you're going to be working on

1528
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,520
soon or that you hope to pull together

1529
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:33,599
sooner than later what what is what is

1530
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,040
the next step in your projects

1531
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:39,520
well right now i'm working on is um

1532
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,319
i'm

1533
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,000
also the president of the hollywood

1534
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,400
christmas parade so we're putting that

1535
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:45,920
together

1536
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:48,480
i thought i was busy

1537
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:50,800
so that's that's happening the

1538
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,359
sunday after thanksgiving so

1539
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:55,760
that is um

1540
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,710
instead actually put together two hour

1541
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,200
production and we have we'll have about

1542
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,359
200 celebrities in our building which is

1543
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:09,119
the green room for the parade

1544
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:10,319
and uh

1545
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,480
so we'll be doing a whole number on that

1546
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,640
in just a few weeks and then like i told

1547
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:16,480
you we've got the general

1548
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:19,359
who's the uh the president of the u.s

1549
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,359
marine corps toys for tots we have a

1550
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,680
special dinner for him on saturday night

1551
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,680
and then the parade's on sunday

1552
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,839
so this is the kickoff event for the

1553
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,000
marine corps toys for tots so that's a

1554
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,760
big event that we're gearing up for

1555
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,200
right now

1556
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,559
and then um

1557
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,720
wow so that's amazing that's

1558
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,400
yeah so i'm

1559
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,920
mostly going to be staying home between

1560
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,079
now and thanksgiving i've got

1561
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:43,599
one little thing i'll be doing going to

1562
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,800
san francisco for a few days but

1563
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,960
otherwise setting that up and making

1564
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:48,880
that working on that so that's that's

1565
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,839
exciting

1566
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,640
um

1567
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,319
goodness and your secret weapon is your

1568
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,720
wife who is juggling the phone calls in

1569
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,960
the background

1570
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:58,160
totally she's when they brought me the

1571
00:56:05,109 --> 00:55:59,760
green she brought me some dinner and i

1572
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:08,789
uh-oh breaking up again lost them

1573
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,119
oh okay sorry you're there i walked into

1574
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,119
sir i walked in a circle i'm here that's

1575
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,440
not good

1576
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:17,440
so she passed the green drink to you

1577
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,640
forgive me

1578
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,319
i'll never take a step again

1579
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:22,880
exactly

1580
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,799
oh my goodness thank you thank goodness

1581
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,760
for the life my i mean that's that's a

1582
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:30,240
secret weapon that for sure is

1583
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:31,599
definitely is

1584
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,400
so the toys for tots that that's a um

1585
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,160
that's a noble cause with everything

1586
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:37,520
that you've got on your plate that's

1587
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:38,640
going

1588
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,200
and then a toss

1589
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,599
yeah that's very exciting and then

1590
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,119
probably in december i'm going to be

1591
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,359
going to ketchikan ask we're working on

1592
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:49,440
there getting a pier

1593
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,240
dedicated to uh ashley delron hubbard up

1594
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,880
there he wrote a book called uh the

1595
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,240
cheat chalker which is about ketchup and

1596
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,960
alaska and um

1597
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,079
it's uh

1598
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:02,240
when he was when he was up there

1599
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:04,000
he was actually doing some research for

1600
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,960
the u.s uh navy on a device that was

1601
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:08,799
used to become loran the long-range

1602
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:11,680
navigation which then was replaced by

1603
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:13,200
uh satellites

1604
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,720
but um

1605
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:16,160
part of the equipment he had he was able

1606
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:17,680
to uh

1607
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:21,119
isolate and track down a nazi saboteur

1608
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,040
that was trying to cut the communication

1609
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,200
lines in the united states because it's

1610
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,520
it's right zero by alaska it's right

1611
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,359
next to the

1612
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,920
to russia and uh so he was trying to use

1613
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,839
that to cut communication lines and so

1614
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,599
he was able to track that down so we're

1615
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:36,880
doing a whole thing up there right now

1616
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:37,920
for uh

1617
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,640
probably in december after

1618
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,920
um

1619
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:44,160
the uh parade

1620
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,760
and after i get back from london for

1621
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:47,280
another for an event i'm doing over

1622
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:48,480
there but then after that we'll be doing

1623
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,000
this thing in ketchikan alaska which is

1624
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,160
i'm very excited i love it up there

1625
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,400
it's it's a very very fun place

1626
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,200
it's very cold as well

1627
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:58,880
it's all

1628
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,079
it's very cold but it's also um it's the

1629
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:05,680
wettest city in america

1630
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,119
there's more rainfall there in ketchikan

1631
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,280
alaska than any place else in north

1632
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,750
no thank you

1633
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,839
i mean i'm sure it's pretty but i think

1634
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:18,319
i'd rather control a drone flying over

1635
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:30,710
that will be me and i'm like hey john

1636
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:35,990
yo heidi i'll wave up and give you the

1637
00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:39,920
high five and carry on yup yup exactly

1638
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:41,839
my goodness you know the more that you

1639
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,720
speak of l ron hubbard the more i feel

1640
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,119
like i know nothing of this man it

1641
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:50,079
sounds like he was an einstein of a sort

1642
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:50,960
what

1643
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,680
drove this man it's pretty remarkable

1644
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,480
it was very remarkable he was um

1645
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:00,319
yeah he was um

1646
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,200
from the beginning he was you know

1647
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:05,760
his mother was a rarity in

1648
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,400
the american frontier she herself was um

1649
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,359
an educated uh book-trained uh

1650
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,880
mother this was like turn of the century

1651
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,720
in 1900 so she taught him to read by the

1652
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:16,640
time he was two and a half

1653
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:19,680
and um so he was because they're in in

1654
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,720
montana um he grew up on a horse ranch

1655
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,640
so he was um

1656
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,640
writing he had his own

1657
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:28,880
uh saddle that he was used to ride

1658
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,359
horses by the time he was three and

1659
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,280
he became a blood brother of the america

1660
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,799
of the um

1661
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,440
of an indian tribe up there

1662
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:39,599
and so he his first book that he wrote

1663
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:42,559
called buckskin brigades

1664
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:45,280
portrayed the native american in as good

1665
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:46,720
guys and that was one of the first times

1666
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,400
that it ever happened the new york times

1667
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,720
gave it a great book review

1668
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,079
and um

1669
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,160
so it's just something that

1670
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,680
you know he he traveled a lot and he

1671
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:57,760
just he really enjoyed people he

1672
01:00:03,030 --> 01:00:00,160
traveled all over the place and because

1673
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:03,040
his dad was in the navy he was able to

1674
01:00:06,069 --> 01:00:04,799
travel a lot with them

1675
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:06,079
and

1676
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,720
one time when he was

1677
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,720
i guess he was in high school and the

1678
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,839
teacher

1679
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,359
got upset at one of the other girls

1680
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:16,000
students and and um threw a piece of

1681
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:17,920
chalk and beamed her in the head so

1682
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,400
he went up and picked up the teacher and

1683
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,160
threw him the trash can and he left and

1684
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:24,640
he left there and went to

1685
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,119
san diego to catch up

1686
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,599
a ship to guam with his father as was

1687
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,960
and his father said what are you doing

1688
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:32,400
here you're supposed to be in school so

1689
01:00:36,390 --> 01:00:33,599
he sent him home

1690
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:36,400
so he went home via china

1691
01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:37,520
and

1692
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:41,839
mystics of the time so that's where he

1693
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:44,400
was he did a lot of um went to for

1694
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:45,520
business city when it was still

1695
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,640
forbidden

1696
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:48,960
and pictures he took there in in china

1697
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,720
he sold the national geographic because

1698
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,559
after that time america had never seen

1699
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,079
more than a couple turns in the great

1700
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,040
wall

1701
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:57,520
so he had the shot that had many turns

1702
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,599
and so he um sold that to national

1703
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:01,839
universe so he was just he was he was

1704
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,319
definitely a renaissance man and

1705
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,400
because he was

1706
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:07,920
such a popular

1707
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:10,079
writer he was able to turn his travels

1708
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,119
into

1709
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,960
more stories and he sold a lot of his

1710
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,640
stories and um

1711
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,400
yeah so that's there's definitely a lot

1712
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,000
that owenhove.org has a lot of the

1713
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,839
different vignettes video vignettes of

1714
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,280
different parts of his

1715
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,359
lifestyle did he venture alone

1716
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:25,839
oftentimes or did he have like a group

1717
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:28,079
of folks that he did these adventures

1718
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:29,200
with or

1719
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:30,960
like the the trip that he did to

1720
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:33,359
ketchikan alaska that was his first flag

1721
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:34,640
that he flew for the explorers club

1722
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,520
there he traveled with his wife

1723
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,920
but sometimes he would travel

1724
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:41,680
he did a uh

1725
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:44,000
see when he was in college he um

1726
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:46,960
he did a motion picture expedition of uh

1727
01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:50,079
the last four masted schooner that he

1728
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:51,760
had a bunch of other college students

1729
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:59,190
yep we're listening yeah

1730
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:00,559
so he did

1731
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,960
yeah i'm i'm still you're good okay i

1732
01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:05,040
hear you you got me okay okay good all

1733
01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:07,040
right so

1734
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,040
uh yeah so he just yeah good i

1735
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,799
appreciate that so he's

1736
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:12,880
he just did a lot of traveling stuff so

1737
01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:15,520
uh there's a lot of um

1738
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:17,839
great stories and so he's able a lot of

1739
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,799
his his stories are historical fiction

1740
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:22,160
he takes some

1741
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:23,839
point of fact and then builds a story

1742
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,359
around it which which made them a lot of

1743
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:27,599
fun and because he was there in those

1744
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:29,839
areas he had that

1745
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:32,640
that that reality to it which really

1746
01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:35,280
made it uh easy for a person to uh to

1747
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,119
follow that story even

1748
01:02:41,829 --> 01:02:39,520
today when i you know we have our

1749
01:02:43,829 --> 01:02:41,839
stories that we've republished and

1750
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,839
people in the navy love his navy stories

1751
01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:46,000
because they're so realistic and the

1752
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:48,559
and the stories that he writes about uh

1753
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:51,280
air air flight the pilots love those

1754
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,640
because they're so realistic because he

1755
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:54,640
he actually did it so that's that's

1756
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,799
something that's just makes it a lot of

1757
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:58,559
fun as a publisher to do that and the

1758
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:00,240
fact that he created this contest called

1759
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,079
writers and illustrators of the future

1760
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,880
enables me to meet so many amazing

1761
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:07,119
writers and top-notch writers who are

1762
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:09,200
the judges of the contest and the

1763
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:11,359
winners who go on to major careers now

1764
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:14,319
because it's such a an amazingly proven

1765
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:15,520
contest

1766
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,079
my goodness i i'm exhausted thinking

1767
01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:20,880
about this man's life

1768
01:03:25,109 --> 01:03:23,200
yeah he was constantly on the go his

1769
01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:25,119
poor wife he was

1770
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:26,559
he was

1771
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:29,200
very much on the go yes i just can't

1772
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,400
imagine

1773
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,319
keeping it all organized first off

1774
01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:34,799
having the energy to bounce from here to

1775
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:37,839
there to start another thing over here

1776
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,559
and promote that and i just you know

1777
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:42,240
when i listen to this i can't help but

1778
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:46,319
to think of of course einstein who

1779
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:47,440
somebody

1780
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:50,799
uh unethically kept his brain

1781
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:53,359
and they sliced into it and they found

1782
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:57,280
he had a ton more synapses than the next

1783
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,240
person and i i mean when i hear people

1784
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:02,079
like oh ron hubbard i'm like

1785
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:04,160
something was different

1786
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:06,880
there was something more at work that i

1787
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:09,520
don't see every day that's why that's

1788
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,559
right

1789
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:12,960
absolutely that's absolutely a fact

1790
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,000
do you ever nobody to los angeles i do i

1791
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,079
do i go there quite a bit

1792
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,319
really i would love to invite you to

1793
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:21,839
come over we could have lunch or dinner

1794
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:23,200
or something like that and i can show

1795
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:24,960
you the library and see this i think

1796
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,160
it'd be great i'd love to be able to

1797
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:28,079
meet you in person oh my god have some

1798
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:30,799
of your enthusiasm rub off on me are you

1799
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,720
kidding me and i'll never leave and

1800
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:34,319
you'll just be like why did i invite

1801
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,079
this crazy woman

1802
01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:38,960
no i will never regret having invited

1803
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,119
you and you can be my wife and you can

1804
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:43,200
then we can there's amazing stuff here

1805
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:43,920
and

1806
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:46,400
you can see some of the indigenous life

1807
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:47,599
forms

1808
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:50,400
oh cool i would i would so love it thank

1809
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:52,480
you so much i i will definitely do that

1810
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,480
i will i'll come in and i'm like and

1811
01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:56,559
i'll bring a whole crew of strangers too

1812
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:58,559
and i'm like come on in everybody no i

1813
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,760
won't do that

1814
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:02,319
yes he said i could come however

1815
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,069
i love it

1816
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:07,920
i would love that yeah so then you could

1817
01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:09,520
and i can show you and give you more you

1818
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,000
know of a show of like the various

1819
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:14,160
things because you can see his his

1820
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:15,680
police badge when he was in l.a police

1821
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:17,440
force so you can see his ribbons from

1822
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:18,880
when he was in the navy where you can

1823
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:21,599
see his three guinness world records

1824
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:24,400
it's all real and and then we've got the

1825
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:26,000
the 100 plus

1826
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,359
uh pulp fiction stories we have a

1827
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:28,559
special section with all the pulp

1828
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,000
fictions and many of them have his name

1829
01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:32,319
on the on the cover so you just people

1830
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,039
go like wow i had just no idea

1831
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:37,280
this is yeah i might i'm sitting here

1832
01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:38,720
with my jaw open and i'm not

1833
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:40,720
exaggerating because i'm like

1834
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:43,039
i i did not know people like that

1835
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:44,559
existed

1836
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:45,760
you know

1837
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:49,280
yeah that's that is amazing and

1838
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,760
it's it blows my mind how some people

1839
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:53,440
don't have hobbies

1840
01:05:58,230 --> 01:05:56,400
and then i hear of somebody who has

1841
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:58,240
so many hobbies i have a lot of hobbies

1842
01:06:03,270 --> 01:06:00,640
and people think i'm crazy and i'm not i

1843
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:03,280
really am not but

1844
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:06,799
it's it's so it's like invigorating and

1845
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,480
it it does make you feel like well what

1846
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:10,079
the heck have i done with my life you

1847
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:11,599
know my goodness i wanted to have a

1848
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:14,400
world record too or something so yeah no

1849
01:06:19,109 --> 01:06:16,640
it's it's a totally good thing to uh to

1850
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:19,119
help you know inspire people to aspire

1851
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,640
to something just you know

1852
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,799
aspire to excellence it's it's a good

1853
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,920
thing

1854
01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:25,680
it sounds like you need to have a crew

1855
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,400
of people that go out to the schools

1856
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:30,640
all over the country and say do you know

1857
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:34,559
what this man did by the time he was 13

1858
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:37,039
i mean no i know it's amazing yeah

1859
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,400
because i think a lot of kids don't

1860
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:40,799
realize their full potential and to hear

1861
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:43,200
this has to be inspiring

1862
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:45,359
no it is we do you know there's there's

1863
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,880
various projects mostly through the

1864
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,119
books you know that that people can uh

1865
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,359
listen to or read if they're audio books

1866
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:53,520
or or print readers

1867
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:54,640
and it's just

1868
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:57,839
it really isn't um endearing to hear how

1869
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,520
they just like it makes them want to

1870
01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:00,880
read more you know that's something like

1871
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:03,359
i said it's very important to me

1872
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:06,880
oh my goodness i i'm just i'm blown away

1873
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:09,599
i i just really am it's uh

1874
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,319
it's a whole other world to even go

1875
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,480
there and and follow the stories and

1876
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,799
then they did this and then he did that

1877
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,640
it's it's like uh

1878
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,640
it doesn't go together but you know the

1879
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,480
adventures of forrest gump when he

1880
01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:24,160
jumped all over the place and he's like

1881
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:25,599
and he's here and he's there and he's

1882
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:26,960
doing this and he's doing great things

1883
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:29,920
it's like how do you keep up i it even

1884
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:32,480
as uh the person who puts out all his

1885
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:33,680
work

1886
01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:36,240
for you to keep it in your head

1887
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:38,559
you you live in an encyclopedia like jim

1888
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:40,640
mars or what

1889
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:42,960
i'm not quite that good but i

1890
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:44,079
that's

1891
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:45,760
i have a lot of books open on my desk

1892
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:46,960
right now so that when something comes

1893
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:49,039
up i can go okay here we go here

1894
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:50,480
you know because there there's a lot to

1895
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:53,359
it but like for example um

1896
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:54,880
next week i'm gonna be going to san

1897
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:56,799
francisco to meet with a person that

1898
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:00,400
published uh one of his novels in 1949

1899
01:08:02,309 --> 01:08:01,520
um

1900
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:02,319
and

1901
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:07,039
he's got you know great stories to tell

1902
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:08,559
about when he having known i'll run

1903
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:09,599
hubbard so i'm gonna go up there and

1904
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:11,200
we're gonna do an interview

1905
01:08:13,990 --> 01:08:12,799
so part of that helps me to find out

1906
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:14,000
more about i'm just from talking to

1907
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,839
others who knew him it's getting harder

1908
01:08:20,709 --> 01:08:17,839
to find people like that but he's

1909
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,719
um he's got a very busy schedule but we

1910
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,319
got slide in all day thursday to be able

1911
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,400
to talk and do an interview

1912
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:26,960
so i'll do that type of stuff to

1913
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:29,920
get more understanding of hubbard

1914
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,239
you are the keeper of the vault of

1915
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,000
everything l ron hubbard so it's your

1916
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:37,040
duty to seek these people out huh

1917
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,880
yeah no it's and it's

1918
01:08:41,829 --> 01:08:40,560
and they have such amazing stories

1919
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,839
because it's um

1920
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:43,120
like i said i mentioned some of those

1921
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,400
people that were the

1922
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:46,000
the original judges of the illustrators

1923
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,679
of the future contest they themselves

1924
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,359
had great stories about ron because

1925
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:51,120
authors at the time

1926
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,719
never really talked to the artist

1927
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,520
because the artists were just like

1928
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:57,839
they they weren't really of anything of

1929
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:59,600
being noticed and and

1930
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,759
um some of them were talking about how

1931
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:03,359
he was so unlike the other authors that

1932
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,719
he would actually come in and thank him

1933
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:06,480
and appreciate you know for what they

1934
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,480
did and they just they felt so special

1935
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:10,080
when when he would talk to him because

1936
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,000
he said nobody nobody else did that the

1937
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:14,640
other authors wouldn't do that so

1938
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,520
um

1939
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,199
so that's just you know just amazing

1940
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:19,040
what he's able to do on that

1941
01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:21,679
that is my how did you get to the helm

1942
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,120
of such a thing and how long have you

1943
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:24,960
been doing this

1944
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,960
well i kind of like um

1945
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:28,799
you started first of all by sweeping the

1946
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:31,040
floors yeah you learned how to take out

1947
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:32,159
the trash

1948
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:34,960
yes

1949
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:36,960
and then somebody calls in sick one day

1950
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,719
say i can do that and then you quickly

1951
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:40,239
learn how to do it and then you

1952
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:42,080
eventually come up and um

1953
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:43,839
because i've been working in publishing

1954
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:45,279
since 86

1955
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:46,400
and

1956
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:49,440
i was asked to start galaxy press uh the

1957
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,799
publisher house for all the fiction

1958
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,719
works in 2002.

1959
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:54,080
and so i've been the president since

1960
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,960
2002 doing this and um

1961
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,080
it's just

1962
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,320
um it's been a lot of fun and actually

1963
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,560
i'm going to probably going to london

1964
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,719
right after the parade to work out the

1965
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:06,880
release of battlefield earth in london

1966
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:08,719
uh next spring

1967
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:10,800
so it's um you know this is all kinds of

1968
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,159
fun people to work with and it's just um

1969
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:16,159
just i have a lot of fun and the more i

1970
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:18,080
do the more it's a little easier to do

1971
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:19,520
so people have questions i can better

1972
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,400
answer the questions yeah and um

1973
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:24,000
so it's just it's just one of those

1974
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,360
win-win things and

1975
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:26,719
you know things like this interview

1976
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,719
right now is to me that's those are the

1977
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,440
perks of the job

1978
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:33,840
that's awesome are there gonna ever be

1979
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:35,920
any more movies

1980
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:38,239
about battlefield earth or any other of

1981
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,280
uh

1982
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:41,679
yeah we wanted yeah we want to do that

1983
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:43,840
um we obviously didn't have a whole lot

1984
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:46,719
of of a win on that first movie although

1985
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:49,679
i get probably a third half people say i

1986
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:50,960
love the movie and then the other ones

1987
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,280
say they didn't and um so

1988
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:54,960
i personally love the movie because i

1989
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:57,679
sold half a million books

1990
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,360
know so that in itself there's a lot of

1991
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:01,199
people that became fans of the author

1992
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:02,560
and so i sold a lot of books because of

1993
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,840
that which is

1994
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,000
the the for me one of the big values of

1995
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,320
it even better had the movie been better

1996
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:10,320
well received

1997
01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:12,400
um but ultimately i got we sold a lot of

1998
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:14,080
books from that but we are right now

1999
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:15,760
we're working on um

2000
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,440
a graphic novel of battlefield earth and

2001
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:19,600
that being done we're going to venture

2002
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:21,280
back into the um

2003
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,360
into that uh in the movie

2004
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:25,280
realm of things

2005
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:28,000
nice oh that is fantastic

2006
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,040
you know i

2007
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,679
i dug the movie i did

2008
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,120
yeah i mean a lot of people a lot of

2009
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,360
people did just you know sometimes i

2010
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,159
just i go i approach the movie very just

2011
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:40,239
open as an open slate however person

2012
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:42,400
wants to go i can i can appreciate

2013
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,600
either side of it i personally um

2014
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:48,239
you know i enjoyed it you know it's um

2015
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:49,360
there are some things that were at

2016
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:53,440
variance to the storyline which is what

2017
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,600
made it there's their cavemen that he

2018
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,280
finds but there's no cavemen in the

2019
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:59,120
story there are people from scotland

2020
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,719
they're scotsman and they're like

2021
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,719
they're very dedicated and they're very

2022
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:04,719
on purpose and duty

2023
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,640
and dutiful and they don't

2024
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:08,640
they're like and they don't fly off six

2025
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:11,280
teams you know it's it's it's not that

2026
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,000
so

2027
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:14,480
the willingness to to suspend one's

2028
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:16,719
disbelief was a lot harder

2029
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,159
in the movie

2030
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,920
than it is in the book and so that was

2031
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:21,440
the i think that was ultimately the

2032
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:22,880
problem that

2033
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:25,280
that people had with it and why the fans

2034
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:27,280
didn't come to the defense when

2035
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:29,040
you know some of the critics wanted to

2036
01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:31,040
be able to um

2037
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:32,960
drop their droppings

2038
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:33,920
yeah

2039
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:37,920
that's a good way to plan i like that

2040
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:40,880
let's drop their droppings everybody

2041
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:43,199
thank goodness you know i have a hard

2042
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:44,239
time

2043
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:47,440
i don't really listen to the reviews

2044
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,080
from the official reviewers of movies

2045
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:52,960
and whatnot because teach their own it

2046
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:55,679
yeah i like science fiction i love

2047
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,360
special effects i like the idea

2048
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:01,280
wherever a person's mind can go and make

2049
01:13:04,630 --> 01:13:02,400
it into

2050
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,640
spin the story into such a cool reality

2051
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,360
i just wanna dig in i i love that kind

2052
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:09,440
of stuff so i'm gonna see every science

2053
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:12,560
fiction movie out there because i just

2054
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,080
that's just me and i think if you're a

2055
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:16,560
science fiction fan you you you go see

2056
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,239
it no matter what people are saying i i

2057
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:19,920
don't i don't know and it has to be on

2058
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:21,760
the big screen too i can't be at home i

2059
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:23,920
have to go to the theater i know a lot

2060
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:25,760
of people are dropping off

2061
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,159
going to the theaters but i'm like no i

2062
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,960
i need that i need that

2063
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:32,719
yeah no it's i'd love the big theaters

2064
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:33,600
even though

2065
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:36,960
paycheck to go see a movie but it's

2066
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:37,679
still

2067
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,120
it's worth it they're getting they're

2068
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:40,320
pretty good

2069
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:41,600
at least here in hollywood they can be

2070
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,719
pretty

2071
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,560
the chinese theater is gorgeous they

2072
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:47,040
have this big iron max theater which is

2073
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:48,400
just awesome

2074
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,640
it's awesome to see movies there

2075
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:52,480
i have not gone in there for a movie now

2076
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:55,520
you got me thinking yeah it's really i

2077
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:01,270
what was it the um

2078
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,080
with tom cruise the um

2079
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,630
no the one where they're yeah that's

2080
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,320
your better half your better half yeah

2081
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:12,640
my wife is speaking now not the american

2082
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:14,239
made with the other one the uh before

2083
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:15,360
that

2084
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:16,400
mummy

2085
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:19,679
you were talking about how you like um

2086
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,080
any science fiction so that's yes more

2087
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,640
of a fantasy but still it was uh

2088
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,719
seeing in imax is just

2089
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:28,640
it's amazing just the sound that they do

2090
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:30,719
there and the quality of the of the

2091
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:33,679
visual is just it's just amazing

2092
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,640
oh my gosh i i dig it i mean i wish more

2093
01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,120
people would keep supporting

2094
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:41,600
the theaters and getting out there

2095
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,360
i i was really sad when the drive-in

2096
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:45,040
theater is all shut down you know it's

2097
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:48,960
like god no that's it it's such a

2098
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:51,760
an adventure to go out and to to see

2099
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:54,080
something on the big screen with others

2100
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:56,400
taking it in popcorn everything's a

2101
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,199
sticky mess it's an experience i i just

2102
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:00,640
i don't know i hope that that's a

2103
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:02,800
serious piece of americana that that's

2104
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:05,199
unfortunate that no longer exists

2105
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:08,000
yes yes but the theaters are struggling

2106
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:09,600
this year they said everybody's watching

2107
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:11,520
the movies at home it's like we've got

2108
01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,199
to change this around i'm telling you

2109
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,600
and yeah you you know what i

2110
01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:17,520
after you told me

2111
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:19,760
what you guys were able to pull off for

2112
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,239
the audiobook version

2113
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,800
i'm thinking a whole new

2114
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:27,199
adventure can be had with audiobooks i

2115
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:30,159
don't think i've ever heard of such an

2116
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:32,640
audio book that is amazing what you guys

2117
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:35,120
did totally amazing yeah i'd be very

2118
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,560
interested to get your feedback on that

2119
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,239
you know i know carmen talks to you

2120
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,800
periodically so yeah i love it get it

2121
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:42,480
get it and listen to it and then also

2122
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:44,080
one thing i just realized i didn't tell

2123
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:45,760
you is that there's a special right now

2124
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,760
too on kindle if anybody's a kindle

2125
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,520
reader uh the book battlefield is

2126
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:51,360
available for only 99 cents it's

2127
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:53,679
something that amazon offered up because

2128
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,120
it's such a good selling book so they're

2129
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,520
saying here you go uh you get 99 cents

2130
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,120
now for um

2131
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:00,719
for the battlefield book and they're

2132
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,239
doing a whole promotion on it tomorrow

2133
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,800
saturday um sending it out but it's

2134
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:05,920
right now it's available for several

2135
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:08,239
days for 99 cents only so that's

2136
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,760
something like that

2137
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:11,120
if anybody got interested in what we've

2138
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:12,320
been talking about for this last hour

2139
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:14,320
and a half then um they want to check it

2140
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:16,000
out 99 cents isn't a whole lot to have

2141
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:16,800
to

2142
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:21,199
right so starting november fourth

2143
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:22,800
saturday tomorrow they're gonna have

2144
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:24,640
that for 99 cents for great well it's

2145
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,239
right it's right 99 cents but they're

2146
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:28,159
sending out a whole big email promotion

2147
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,600
themselves tomorrow letting people know

2148
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:31,360
so this is you're gaining advanced

2149
01:16:34,870 --> 01:16:32,560
notice so

2150
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,880
get the e-book while supplies last

2151
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:36,880
oh my gosh i'm gonna be all over that i

2152
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,960
have a lot of books to get now with this

2153
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:40,640
one conversation

2154
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:41,760
oh good

2155
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:44,000
good this is fantastic that's my job

2156
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:45,520
it's my job

2157
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,159
right yes my goodness you know what this

2158
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,000
has been a really fun and lively

2159
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,320
conversation john i i really want to

2160
01:16:56,790 --> 01:16:54,239
thank you for taking the time to come

2161
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:56,800
and share and give away the free pdf

2162
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,280
from uh jim mars last

2163
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:02,080
uh writings i i mean that is something

2164
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:04,719
else it's called alien invasion is earth

2165
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,320
prepared

2166
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:09,120
yes so got to get that it is for free on

2167
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:12,000
inception radio network uh you just go

2168
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:13,520
to the outlander

2169
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,159
pick up the archive for november 3rd and

2170
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:18,400
uh you'll be able to hear it and grab

2171
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,520
the pdf so you know i i just i'm blown

2172
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:23,040
away this has been a lot of fun you've

2173
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,480
definitely got to come back and we got

2174
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:26,159
to chat some more and i i'm going to go

2175
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,480
to l.a and i'll be knocking on your door

2176
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,960
no this i'm first i'm first i'm for

2177
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,040
total for serious on this thing here i

2178
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:35,280
definitely want this is an invitation

2179
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,000
and

2180
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:38,239
everybody right now is my witness

2181
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:41,760
awesome i'm so there i'm still there

2182
01:17:47,350 --> 01:17:42,640
good

2183
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:47,360
coming on and hold the line for a minute

2184
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:50,080
and i'm gonna wrap this up my gosh this

2185
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,679
has been great this has been great thank

2186
01:17:58,870 --> 01:17:52,719
you

2187
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,880
to the bottom of an awesome program this

2188
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,040
is really fascinating my my jaw was

2189
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:03,120
really dropped open all this while i'm

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not kidding you but remember you catch

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me here every friday 8pm central 9pm

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eastern you've been listening to me

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heidi hollis the outlander remembering

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always if it's weird we're here good